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@pcartwright on GPO rules

@pcartwright on GPO rules

Postby fabiolcati » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:43 am

Hi pcartwright.
I'm reading your custom rules over and over.
You've done a great useful job.
I have some questions about I like to discuss with you before starting to work with.
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Re: @pcartwright on GPO rules

Postby fabiolcati » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:34 pm

Hi pcartwright.
I sent you a pm this afternoon (Italy time) but it looks it is locked in my outbox.
Before anything else (questions, questions, questions) I want to let you know a way to make GPO timpani to roll. Yet without a rule (can't get it this way, I'm a very poor programmer).
Using staccatos with Timpani keyswitched to Rolls on release and heavy randomization I can achieve a decent roll.
The worse is that you need to notate every roll literally. Very bad looking. Nobody can perform reading this!
Unless you create a fake timpani staff with tremolo sign on silent notes...
See picture at:

http://www.box.net/shared/zz1jynssgy

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Re: @pcartwright on GPO rules

Postby pcartwright » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:11 am

Yes, programming for playable percussion is very difficult. We need rules that can do several complicated things:

1. Play repeated notes without notating additional notes (i.e. program measured/unmeasured tremolos)
2. Play notes alternatively/randomly (in this case, at different octaves to emulate the left and right hits of a roll)

As far as I know, adequate programming for a tremolo roll in the GPO library is, at this time, not possible.

I've made several requests for additional rule programming options to meet these requirements (as well as a few other requirements needed for other instruments and support for other libraries):

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1331
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1260
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1259
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1258

As you can see, I haven't received any feedback from the forum or the Notion folks. I think we could get much better playback results from GPO (and other libraries that use similar sample layouts) if we have solutions/workarounds to these requests/questions or if Notion could implement some of these features into the rules syntax.
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Re: GPO rules, keyswitches

Postby David Smith » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:54 am

On my installation, GPO library is accessed via VST Kontakt4. I like having a 2nd library to get a richer blend on strings, for example. However, I can't get many of the options such as a flute trill via GPO/Kontakt just with notation commands. Is that beyond the scope of control for 3rd party, or do I have to get a different GPO lib?
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Re: GPO rules, keyswitches

Postby pcartwright » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:22 pm

David Smith wrote:On my installation, GPO library is accessed via VST Kontakt4. I like having a 2nd library to get a richer blend on strings, for example. However, I can't get many of the options such as a flute trill via GPO/Kontakt just with notation commands. Is that beyond the scope of control for 3rd party, or do I have to get a different GPO lib?


You can use Kontakt as a VST instrument, but you need to have GPO4 (Aria) in order to use the custom rules assigned to GPO.
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