How to write a mordent ?

[fzd]

Hello,

How can I write a mordent, as in this picture ?

Thanks !

[Surfwhammy]

One way that might work is to find a font that has the mordent or shake symbols and then to add a Text field above the note, at which time you can select the symbol and paste it into the Text field . . .

This website has an extensive catalog of music fonts, and one of them might work:

Music Fonts (Music-Notation.info)

It has been a while since I did anything with typography on a Windows machine, but there was a way to add a font so that you could select individual characters or symbols and then paste them into text fields, which is the practical way to do it, because it probably is difficult to enter a special set of characters or whatever for a music symbol into a Text field, although there is a way to do it, since Windows has (or had) a character map application . . .

On the Mac, there is a Character Viewer, and it is used to select and then to insert various symbols in text fields using the mouse . . .

Whether this technique will work depends on the ability to size the symbols and other factors, but it might work . . .

Lots of FUN!

[fzd]

Thank you
I regret it is not provided in Notion 4, it would have been much easier...

[Surfwhammy]

Thank you
I regret it is not provided in Notion 4, it would have been much easier...

I like what mordents do, and I have been using the technique on lead guitar for a long time but without actually knowing that it was a mordent . . .

There is a symbol for vibrato on the guitar palette, but it does not look the same, yet you can add it to a treble clef, which is intriguing . . .

I think that adding more of these symbols to the tool palette makes sense for a future update to NOTION 4, where at first the symbols could be only for printing, which would be a good start and would make a lot of people happy . . .

On a related note, I have been curious about Finale and Sibelius for a year or so, and I did a bit of research earlier this week where I discovered (a) that in the US both of them have competitive crossgrades at a 75 percent discount from the MSRP and (b) that NOTION is a qualifying product, so I got Finale and Sibelius, and I did a quick check in Sibelius 7.1, and it does mordents exactly as shown in the example you posted . . .

Based on what I have seen so far, I am comfortable recommending Sibelius 7.1 as an addition to a composer's suite of digital music production software specifically for advanced engraving and printing, but neither Finale nor Sibelius is in the same class as NOTION for composing, playing, and performing music, where the analogy, metaphor, or simile that comes to mind is that NOTION is a deep and rich world class symphonic orchestra but Finale and Sibelius are kazoos . . .

As time allows, I am planning to do some experiments to see how importing and exporting MIDI and MusicXML works with Finale, NOTION, and Sibelius, since I like to know about stuff even if I do not use it so much, where one strategy might be to do most of the work in NOTION but to export MIDI or MusicXML from NOTION to Sibelius for specialized engraving and printing purposes, which makes a bit of practical sense . . .

Lots of FUN!

[elerouxx]

Just found out that a express entry (' + n) draws a mordent! I don't think this is documented. It also doesn't alter the playback, it's only graphic.

Found by accident.

Edit: I am not sure if it's an express entry because of my foreign keyboard (the accents act a little odd). But I think it is. Apostrphe + n is a mordent, apostrophe + nn is a grupetto. None of them play.

Didn't see those in the manual. Thank you anyway.

[thorrild]

Here is a link to the thread dealing with mordents, turns and the like, as well as the express entry codes for them:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3822&p=14589&hilit=grace#p14589

Best wishes,
Thorrild