instrument-id test fails

[themeworks]

Fellow forumites,

I am writing a set of custom rules and presets for

a) Symphobia
b) Symphobia iI
c) Sam Orchestral Essentails
d) The default orch patches in Kontakt 5

However, I am struggling with instrument-id tests. They all seem to fail. I take the ID from the shift-I and use to set flags (wind, brss, perch, strg, etc). The flag tests work to force the rule options (when I hard set them) but the tests to "set" the flags fail. The instrument-id tests failed when embedded right in the rules too - which is why I symbolized them via flags as I saw done in other preset libs.

So... I am stuck with a great plugin-id, perfect articulation catches, fine midi and keyswitching etc. But my instrument IDs fail.

Andy ideas?

Here's an example:

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<rule-set version="1">

<dynamic-map id="kont">
<dynamic dynamic="ppppp" value="0" />
<dynamic dynamic="pppp" value="10" />
<dynamic dynamic="ppp" value="30" />
<dynamic dynamic="pp" value="40" />
<dynamic dynamic="p" value="50" />
<dynamic dynamic="mp" value="75" />
<dynamic dynamic="mf" value="85" />
<dynamic dynamic="f" value="100" />
<dynamic dynamic="ff" value="106" />
<dynamic dynamic="fff" value="112" />
<dynamic dynamic="ffff" value="120" />
<dynamic dynamic="fffff" value="127" />
</dynamic-map>

<plugin id="1315524405">

<setup>
<velocity-map id="kont" />
<hairpin-map id="kont" />
<hairpin-cc value="11" />
</setup>

<!-- Woodwinds ############################## -->

<rule name = "Woodwinds Flag">
<if instrument-id = "10001" /> <!-- taken right from shift-i on track -->
<set-flag name = "wind" /> <!-- this works when I just hard set it, below -->
</rule>

<rule name="default">
<channel-change channel = "1"/>
</rule>

<rule name="winds staccato">
<if flag = "wind" />
<if articulation = "staccato" />
<channel-change channel = "2" />
</rule>

<rule name="winds espressivo">
<if flag = "wind" />
<if technique = "espr" />
<channel-change channel = "3" />
</rule>

</plugin>

</rule-set>

- EOF

Thanks..

[wcreed51]

I don't think these libraries (or any in Kontakt) even have instrument IDs.

[themeworks]

Yeah,

It's not a Kontakt # --= it's a Notion # (Shift+i) to use for the ruleset to filter which rule for which stave, basically. Think of them as stave rules, not really instrument (perhaps they should b renamed)

At any rate, the Notion rules are ignoring the Notion instrument-id's - or at least form me.

So - I can't get it to tell the different between a winds trill keyswitch from a strings trill keyswitch, for ex. It's all Notion-side.

Is there an instrument-id prefix or suffix to alter for the rules file?

-C*

[davidmesiha]

Hey there,

have you been able to find an answer to this? I'm struggling with this issue.

I can't figure out a way to have different rules apply to different instances on Kontakt playing different libraries on different staves. The custom_rules file will apply the same set of rules to all instances of Kontakt, how can you set it up so that Notion can differentiate different rules for different vsti?

any help from your experience would be immensely helpful.

sincerely

David

[wcreed51]

You would have to run Kontakt in standalone mode, and use virtual MIDI to connect to the 4 MIDI ports available in Notion.

[davidmesiha]

thanks for the response...

[derAbgang]

Any resolution to this?

I am using vienna ensemble pro and the event input plugin. My tests are all from the ids revealed with SHIFT-I (show all instruments).

thanks,
David