Using Miroslav with N3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:47 pm
One of the reasons I was attracted to Notion's website is that I had seen references the just-announced Notion Miroslav SLE on another board, and when I realized that Notion 3 was already set up to handle Miroslav's articulations I got the demo (as Miroslav is the symphonic sample set I use)...after about an hour with it I was ready to start using it as my primary composing tool. I ordered the full software the next day, as I'm hoping to get Vienna SE at some point anyway(and would love to throw EWQL into the mix as well...).
As far as using Miroslav with a limited number of instruments goes...N3 works great (I have a dual core 2.25ghz/3gig/vista running reaper as my DAW). the problem I encounter is that while running notion 3 I find that there is a relatively low number of intstruments one can run from miroslav without the resource problems beginning because each staff has one instance of Miroslav open. Now, Miroslav itself has it's own little 16 channel mixer so that when using it in Reaper for smaller ensembles one only has to open one instance of it...using one track with Miroslav open and running other tracks through it as midi-channel specific tracks. I haven't used Cubase or any of the others in a while, but I assume they all have similar ways to do this. Most of my orchestral compositions only require 2 or 3 (4 max) instances of miroslav to be open...that gives me 32 to 64 tracks...enough to put different articulations in for instruments that need it. Reaper has no problem handling 4 instances of Reaper, loaded full with 16 instruments each.
As far as I can tell, there's no way to do this in Notion3 (if there is I'd love to know about it), which is why I've been having to bring midi data back and forth. For larger ensembles I write mock-ups in Notion and then export to Reaper to hear them played through Miroslav (this is one reason I am hoping for the midi issues to get solved so I don't have use Finale to clean up all the midi stuff).
What I would love to see N3 do is have a setting where for instruments that don' have multiple articulations associated with them you could run their associated mixer channels (to which you could assign midi channels) through an insert with Miroslav open in it. This way, for instruments that you want to take advantage of multiple articulations you could let N3 do the work for you. For other instruments, you could route them through the insert, saving resources. In this way, one could run full orchestras in N3 using Miroslav with a laptop like mine. This would truly take away the need for another DAW, at least for me. The limited midi-editing capabilites in Notion are usually enough for me...sometimes I would want to bring something into Reaper to work on in more detail, but by and large, if I can record and play it in N3 it can stay there.
Anyway, just thought I'd through this out there. Not sure how many other Miroslav users there are here...any input would be appreciated.
As far as using Miroslav with a limited number of instruments goes...N3 works great (I have a dual core 2.25ghz/3gig/vista running reaper as my DAW). the problem I encounter is that while running notion 3 I find that there is a relatively low number of intstruments one can run from miroslav without the resource problems beginning because each staff has one instance of Miroslav open. Now, Miroslav itself has it's own little 16 channel mixer so that when using it in Reaper for smaller ensembles one only has to open one instance of it...using one track with Miroslav open and running other tracks through it as midi-channel specific tracks. I haven't used Cubase or any of the others in a while, but I assume they all have similar ways to do this. Most of my orchestral compositions only require 2 or 3 (4 max) instances of miroslav to be open...that gives me 32 to 64 tracks...enough to put different articulations in for instruments that need it. Reaper has no problem handling 4 instances of Reaper, loaded full with 16 instruments each.
As far as I can tell, there's no way to do this in Notion3 (if there is I'd love to know about it), which is why I've been having to bring midi data back and forth. For larger ensembles I write mock-ups in Notion and then export to Reaper to hear them played through Miroslav (this is one reason I am hoping for the midi issues to get solved so I don't have use Finale to clean up all the midi stuff).
What I would love to see N3 do is have a setting where for instruments that don' have multiple articulations associated with them you could run their associated mixer channels (to which you could assign midi channels) through an insert with Miroslav open in it. This way, for instruments that you want to take advantage of multiple articulations you could let N3 do the work for you. For other instruments, you could route them through the insert, saving resources. In this way, one could run full orchestras in N3 using Miroslav with a laptop like mine. This would truly take away the need for another DAW, at least for me. The limited midi-editing capabilites in Notion are usually enough for me...sometimes I would want to bring something into Reaper to work on in more detail, but by and large, if I can record and play it in N3 it can stay there.
Anyway, just thought I'd through this out there. Not sure how many other Miroslav users there are here...any input would be appreciated.