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Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:34 pm
by DrH
I am having problems running the tutorials.
When I go to the tutotials page, my browser (Explorer 7) shows the dreaded Errors icon, and when I click on a tutorial (any of them), a get the audible click feedback, but the tutorials do not fire up. I did not have this problem with the old page.
Any thoughts or solutions?
DrH
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:04 pm
by Admin
DrH wrote:I am having problems running the tutorials.
When I go to the tutotials page, my browser (Explorer 7) shows the dreaded Errors icon, and when I click on a tutorial (any of them), a get the audible click feedback, but the tutorials do not fire up. I did not have this problem with the old page.
Any thoughts or solutions?
DrH
You can do a few things...this is a problem specific to IE7.
1. Update to IE8. Much more stable and far less issues with compatibility.
2. Download Firefox as a browser (once again MUCH more stable and compatible).
3. Visit our YouTube page and watch the videos from there
http://www.youtube.com/user/NotionMusicIncLet me know if these options don't work for you...
-Kyle
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:56 pm
by DrH
Kyle,
Thanks! I went to YouTube and watched them there.
Because the tutorial's create global rules for all instruments, what's missing is how to create rules for specific intruments in a library.
For example, Garritan VSTi's do not allow for changing keyswitch settings like VSL (as was demonstrated in the tutorials). Therefore, because I need to be able to create rules that trigger one keyswitch for brass mutes and another for string mutes (and there are many more technique keyswitch differences among the various Garritan libraries), I need to test for which instrument I am creating any given rule.
Solution?
DrH
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:54 am
by Erufailon
Can't you use midi-channels, just like with midi-out ports?
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:04 am
by pcartwright
DrH wrote:Because the tutorial's create global rules for all instruments, what's missing is how to create rules for specific intruments in a library.
Isn't this solved by the plugin ID referenced at the top of the rules file? You might want to open up the default rules files (the ones that came with Notion) to see how the programmers set up the VST specific rules.
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:18 pm
by DrH
pcartwright:
Unfortuately, the plugin-id identifies only the plug-in (Kontakt 2/3, etc.) and *not* the indivual instrstuments that might be loaded into it or added to a Notion 3 score.
If you look at at the Aria_gpo rules file, you'll see that there is a condition that tests the instrument to which a given rule should be applied. That is what is needed for other VST's as well.
Erufailon:
Yes, that would work, but then Notion wouldn't automatically load my VST plug-ins, which I think is the whole purpose of being able to create rules for them.

DrH
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:34 pm
by pcartwright
I see what you mean; I thought you were talking about plugin specific rules not instrument specific rules within a plugin. I agree, a way to clarify instruments instruments in the rules files (or maybe even add custom instruments/VSTis) to Notion's instrument/track screen would be amazing. I just upgraded to Garritan's Jazz and Big Band 3 for the Aria engine, and I would love to add presets for those instruments "natively" to Notion.
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:34 pm
by wcreed51
I assume you use <if midi-channel = "XX"/> , to identify which instrument you're sending to
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:10 am
by Erufailon
DrH wrote:Erufailon:
Yes, that would work, but then Notion wouldn't automatically load my VST plug-ins, which I think is the whole purpose of being able to create rules for them.

DrH
Why? I mean the same as wcreed, you can use the 16 midi-channels inside the plugin (if the plugin supports it). This way you can reference 16 instruments/plugin type.
Re: Tutorials Problem

Posted:
Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:54 pm
by DrH
Efulian,
Hmmm. Are you implying that one can connect to a VST plug-in loaded into N3 via External Midi staffs? If so, just how would one do that?
Thnx,
DrH