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Miroslav - Clarinet vs Bass Clarinet instruments on menu

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:09 pm
by ChrisHeinen
In Score Setup, under Miroslav Philharmonik, Woodwinds, there are two instruments labeled "Clarinet" (one in the left column and one in the right column of the pop-up menu. In trying to understand the difference, I added a staff of each one, and looked at the resulting VST instruments that were loaded into the system. They look the same.

On the file system, there is a "04_Miro_Clarinet" and "51_Miro_Bass_Clarinet" in the PLK folder, so I assume there should be one of each instrument on the menu.

Is this on the "radar" to be fixed?

Thanks,
CH

Re: Miroslav - Clarinet vs Bass Clarinet instruments on menu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:07 am
by Admin
Hi Chris,

I will log a ticket. It is the first I have heard of it.

-Admin

Re: Miroslav - Clarinet vs Bass Clarinet instruments on menu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:13 pm
by wcreed51
While on the subject, I'd like to request a full overhaul of the instrument pallets in score setup. The instrument groups are in a different order for every library, and none of them make any sense.

Please consider putting everything in score order, and using consistent instrument names. The current setup looks like it was done by a non-musician.

Re: Miroslav - Clarinet vs Bass Clarinet instruments on menu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:28 pm
by Admin
By score order, I am assuming that you mean that the list of instruments in Score Setup for VST's like VSL would be better served if they were in the order that they would go in to a score.

Mostly, they just went in order that the program put them in. It is a little random, sorry. As far as instrument names, we named them what Vienna named them to avoid confusion as to which VSL instrument you are using.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

-Admin

Re: Miroslav - Clarinet vs Bass Clarinet instruments on menu

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:19 pm
by wcreed51
Yes, the order they'd appear in the score. Not just VSL, but Notion, MP and EWQLSO.

Re: Miroslav - Clarinet vs Bass Clarinet instruments on menu

PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:51 pm
by dcd111
Regarding the Miroslav Bass Clarinet issue, in this thread Elerouxx describes the source of the problem (which he had a fix for in his Miroslav rules and presets package):

Elerouxx wrote:BASS CLARINET FIXED :
-Fixed the absent Bass Clarinet problem by "hacking" a byte in the Bass Clarinet preset file!
[Note: previously, there was no Bass Clarinet, and there were 2 Clarinet presets in the Miroslav instrument list in Notion, because the instrument-id inside the file was set to 12004 (clarinet) instead of 12051. I didn't know how to fix it by other means .]


So it looks like an incorrect instrument ID in the Notion preset for the Miroslav bass clarinet is causing the program to see two clarinet instruments and no bass clarinet instrument, but there's no workaround for users short of using a hex editor on the preset file (or using Elerouxx's replacement rules and presets, which are very good).

I would expect it is an easier fix for the developers, who I assume have the ability to "re-bake" the preset with an adjusted instrument ID.