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newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:28 pm
by ssebs
Hi,
I'm trying the notion 3 demo (while waiting for the version 3) to see if it would meet my needs.
Something that I don't understant in notion philosophy/interface: I managed to insert a Kontakt instance as VST.
But then, how to add more staffs and tell notion that these staffs lines correspond to the kontakt instance, midi channels 2, 3, and so on?
I guess that I could add a kontakt instance for each staff but this seems to be very heavy, I can't believe that this is the only solution for using VSTs instruments?
Thanks in advance for your help, Sebastien ;)

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:38 pm
by wcreed51
There used to be a tutorial for this in the support section, but it's not longer there in the new website.

But using an instance of Kontakt for each staff is fine, and is how things work for EWQLSO and VSL. It's not really such a big hit on resources, as all the instances share the same code.

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:17 pm
by ssebs
Many thanks for your fast answers, I will try this when I'll be back at home and have the time to do it ;)
If I can do it, I prefer to assign several staffs to a vst instance, because it can optimise cpu: for example, in play, a convolution reverb can be shared between several instruments, to limit the cpu required for it.
Anyway thanks for the info about the shared memory, I was afraid that the multiple instances would multiply the needed memory.

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:19 pm
by wcreed51
You can also put that convolution reverb in the Notion mixer :)

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:44 am
by ssebs
Hi,
I now managed to get 2 staffs linked to the channels 1 and 2 of a (EW) play instance.
Now my problem is the staffs naming: as I created first the staff that I named "French Horns", when selecting the channel 2 for the 2nd staff, the 2nd staff is automatically named "French Horns" also, with an instrument change named "French Horns (2)". In the "tools" popup menu, even if I change the staff name (staff settings menu), the staff is not renamed.
Even more problematic, this happens only for the first staffs line. The next staffs lines are all names "Play" :cry:
How to rename properly the staffs?
Note: this is the Notion 3 demo version, maybe there is some bug which has been fixed in version 4? I'm wondering when the version 4 demo will be available (and if the introduction price will be valid until that time...).

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:10 pm
by Admin
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Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:01 am
by ssebs
Thanks for all your help ;)

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:07 pm
by GaryExo
wcreed51 wrote:You can also put that convolution reverb in the Notion mixer :)


Bill, could you explain how to do this? Is it a case of loading a Play instance into the mixer master stereo output and just having the reverb switched on but without any instruments loaded?

Thanks.

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:34 pm
by wcreed51
NO, I was thinking of a standalone reverb, like EW Spaces.

Re: newbee question, VSTs and midi channels

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:16 pm
by GaryExo
Oh, I see. Yes, that would be very easy! I was hoping you knew of a way to strap a Play instance across the master outs. I thought of taking advantage of that "Master" switch in Play as a means to reduce CPU resources by routing all the instruments through one of the built-in reverbs in Play. That doesn't seem to be possible. I tried but there's no option offered by Notion to insert Play into the outputs. Shame. :(