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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby klushund » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:24 am

Thanks for the information! Since there is a tryout version downloadable I'll try it as soon as possible.
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby jgimeno » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:14 pm

Hi guys!! I am having a problem using Notion with Vienna Ensemble multi-instrument.

It sounds right, but it doen't select the apropiate "matrix" when it has to sound stacatto for example. If i go to the Ensemble pro instance and i change the matrix manually it continues until the end of the score.

It seems as if Notion doen't know how to change matrix to take the correct articulation. Is it normal? Thnak you.
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby musicsound12 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:47 am

hello, I’ve been using music practice software since I’ve started known music, but cannot find any pointing option in my music software granary. Is there any such software that I can get here?
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby Toussaint581 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:09 pm

musicsound12 wrote:hello, I’ve been using music practice software since I’ve started known music, but cannot find any pointing option in my music software granary. Is there any such software that I can get here?


your requirement is very rational! However, you can have the moving cursor function in music practice software here- http://notes-helper.com/. Then you’ll have a chance to make your music accurate and impressive further!
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby DaddyO » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:54 pm

OK, I finally have some time to try to integrate my VSL SE Vol 1 Standard into Notion 4.

First step, get Notion 4 to recognize VSL SE 1 as a vstplugin. When I use the VST Manager in Notion and browse for a recognized plugin file, I can find nothing to select. I browse in Notion. I browse in my the folder where VSL is installed, I browse in my PC's user folder where I have a VSL folder with installation files and VSL sound files. Nothing shows up. I'm running the latest Notion 4 version 4.0.320 in 64 bit.

Whassup?!

I had it working in Notion 3, although I didn't get much chance to use it because 2012 was a year full of life-preoccupations.

Any help, including hand-holding for me on what should be obvious, is appreciated.
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby wcreed51 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:51 pm

Probably easiest if you just re-install the VI player, and note where the VSTi are being installed.
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby idiotSavant » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:03 pm

So maybe someone could clarify something for me: What's the difference between using the presets for VE and setting up the individual instruments with the presets that Notion has (at the bottom right of the Score Setup screen. I can't seem to wrap my head around this...
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby Admin » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:45 am

This has been fixed. Sorry for the incovenience.
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby DaddyO » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:09 pm

OK, I have the VST manager recognizing Vienna Instruments player but not the Special Edition instruments. In Score Setup it just says "Vienna Instruments." Elsewhere in Score Setup I DO see VSL Special Edition, and I can access instruments, but when I exit Setup, create a staff and enter notes there is no sound, and when I right-click on Tools and select VSTI interface nothing comes up (it should show Vienna Instruments, I assume).
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Re: Notion 4 VSL Special Edition Presets 1-4 Fix

Postby Admin » Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:50 pm

There are two ways to use VSL in Notion.

1. As a Custom VST

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This method of using VSL is found by going to the "VST" menu in score setup. This is a custom setup and if you want to use it, you will need to have some form of Rules in the folder stored in the same location as the file you are trying to use. You can use a custom Vienna Instrument or a custom Vienna Ensemble instance. You can use this possibility with both Vienna Instruments Software or with Vienna Ensemble Software.

2. As a Notion Preset

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This method is found in the VSL SE or VSL SE Pro Menu in Score setup. These presets use our custom rules that are set in the program. There are 4 different sets of VSL Presets that one can be found if Notion. It depends on what software and what instruments you have purchased from Vienna.

a. If you have purchased Vienna Instruments, you can use either the "VSL Special Edition" or "VSL SE (Notion 3)" presets.
b. If you have purchased Vienna Instruments Pro, you can use either of the above or "VSL Special Edition Pro" or "VSL SE (Notion 3)" presets.
c. If you have the Legacy DVD Special Edition versions, you will want to use "VSL SE (Notion 3)" presets. There is an update for these sounds on the VSL website under Special Edition>Special Edition Legacy Sounds Update
d. If you have the Download Version of the latest Special Edition bundles 1-4, then you will want to use the "VSL Special Edition" or "VSL Special Edition Pro" presets.

Also located in these 4 Menus, you will see a sub-menu called "Special Staffs". In this sub-menu, you can use an "Empty Ensemble" instance. To use the Notion Custom Preset rules of Vienna Instruments inside of a Vienna Ensemble instance, you must use the Empty Ensemble instance from the Special Staffs sub-menu in one of the 4 VSL menus mentioned above.

NOTE: The "Empty Ensemble" sub-menu is called "Custom" in the "VSL SE (Notion 3)" preset menus.

I know this is a lot of information, but you must first determine what you have purchased from VSL. Then make the necessary adjustments to use whichever sets or menus to choose from, based on what you own.

Vienna offers many different products and purchase paths. They have updated and grown and there is a huge amount of customization that they provide. We strive to provide options for every possible combination of use that they are providing paths to. Each version is slightly different and requires a menu for whatever users have purchased. We are striving to stay congruent with their changes.

Once you have determined the appropriate versions of Vienna Software, Notion Presets, and Customization you are able to use, you must point the Vienna Directory manager to the appropriate locations on your computer.

1. Add folders where your sounds are located to the Directory Manager.
2. Set the location of your Custom Data folder

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The custom data that you will need can be found here:

http://www.notionmusic.com/support/downloads.html

Choose the "Other" Tab

Download the appropriate VSL Presets that you own taking into account the above information on Special Edition libraries. When you put them into your Custom Data folder, they will show up in your Vienna Instruments Presets window.

Here are your choices:

-Notion 3 VSL SE fxp presets - compatible with "VSL SE (Notion 3)" presets
-Notion 4 Vienna Special Edition Updated Presets - compatible with "VSL Special Edition" presets
-Notion 4 Vienna Pro Special Edition Updated Presets - compatible with "VSL Special Edition Pro" presets

I recommend getting the "fxp presets" and also one of the "Notion 4 presets" depending on whether you have Pro. They will both show up in Vienna Instruments, and you can use whichever version at any time. I would also recommend to anyone who is interested in using Vienna, watch these videos:

Creating VST Templates Part 1 & 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0kR6mU31YQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLLq43pUwkk

I hope this helps,

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