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Mixed tuplets

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:02 pm
by achambily
How can you make a "quarter + eitgth" tuplet in voice 2 ? (voice 1 containing just a quarter, for example)

Re: Mixed tuplets

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:19 pm
by thorrild
1. Make sure you are in Voice 2.
2. Press E (for 8th note), then Cmd.-3 (Mac) or Ctrl.-3 (Win) for triplet.
3. Enter the two notes, both as 8th notes.
4. Press Esc. to leave the tuple mode.
5. Press Q (for quarter note) and click on the notehead of the first eighth triplet, changing it to a quarter.

Best wishes,
Thorrild

Re: Mixed tuplets

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:55 pm
by achambily
Thanks a lot :)
I would never have thought to do that...

If I can make a suggestion for Notion developpers : it would be more simple to enter quarter, then 8th, then select the 2 notes and click "make tuplet"

Re: Mixed tuplets

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:10 am
by dgriffee
it can work much like what you describe you want "more convenient" if you do a right click to "create custom tuplet". I go that way so often that I made a macro key for it on my setup.

I find it easiest to simply first put all the notes that I will want to tupletify (including mixed combinations of quarters/eights/sixteenth/32nd) but don't specify that you are going to make it a tuplet at first, just put all the notes down "plain" first (it will initially show as longer total duration, but then see the next step...)
THEN highlight all that belongs in my desired tuplet and right click to "custom tuplet". You can include mixed note values and rests too, just make sure it all adds up to the "correct" total of what should be the base of the tuplet group, and the "custom tuplet" widget will automatically show up with the correct number of "x into y" ratio every time. (If you make a mistake in combining complex subdivs, you'll also see amusingly unusual ratios show up as per your mistakes, grin.)

hope this makes your 3s 5s 7s etc more convenient. I find the use of tuplets a great way to get the effect of "rubato" style playing without mucking the tempo up and down, and it's more precise notation anyway.

Re: Mixed tuplets

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:53 am
by achambily
dgriffee wrote:it can work much like what you describe you want "more convenient" if you do a right click to "create custom tuplet". I go that way so often that I made a macro key for it on my setup.

I find it easiest to simply first put all the notes that I will want to tupletify (including mixed combinations of quarters/eights/sixteenth/32nd) but don't specify that you are going to make it a tuplet at first, just put all the notes down "plain" first (it will initially show as longer total duration, but then see the next step...)
THEN highlight all that belongs in my desired tuplet and right click to "custom tuplet". You can include mixed note values and rests too, just make sure it all adds up to the "correct" total of what should be the base of the tuplet group, and the "custom tuplet" widget will automatically show up with the correct number of "x into y" ratio every time. (If you make a mistake in combining complex subdivs, you'll also see amusingly unusual ratios show up as per your mistakes, grin.)

hope this makes your 3s 5s 7s etc more convenient. I find the use of tuplets a great way to get the effect of "rubato" style playing without mucking the tempo up and down, and it's more precise notation anyway.

your method doesn't work for me (quarter+8th) :(
(in fact you cannot select notes in a voice without selecting all the voices)
But the Thorrild way works.

Re: Mixed tuplets

PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:24 pm
by joysetton
:D Thank you for the fantastic solution of putting the mixed notes in first, selecting them and then clicking on the custom tuplet maker, it works so well and I was going crazy trying to find another way!