Dave Dominey wrote:this still happens all the time!!!
drives me up the wall
notion crashes after trying to recover the set too!!!
Other than being a bit amazed that I did not know what a "system" was earlier this year, one possibility is that you simply have too much stuff in your NOTION 3 scores, where for example the general upper limit for VSTi virtual instruments (one per staff) is 50, but NOTION 3 typically starts behaving unusually when the total number of VSTi virtual instruments is greater than 25, which is the reason that I limit NOTION 3 score to somewhere in the range of 20 to 25 VSTI virtual instruments, except when I am using MachFive 3 (MOTU), where I limit the total to 10 or 11, and only use 1 or 2 MachFive 3 VSTi virtual instruments, since MachFive 3 is very heavy in terms of resource usage . . .
When NOTION 3 is approaching its limits and strange things begin happening, if it crashes or freezes, then you might need to try reopening the score several times, closing and restarting NOTION 3 each time . . .
Before I discovered this, it happened frequently, but I never lost a score, although I did lose some 30 minutes or an hours of work every once in a while . . .
And it is important to understand that VST effects plug-ins also tend to be heavy in terms of resource usage, so I generally do not use VST effects plug-ins in NOTION 3. Instead, I record the NOTION 3 generated audio as soundbites in Digital Performer 7.24 (MOTU) via ReWire (Propellerhead Software) and then do all the VST effects plug-in work in Digital Performer 7.24, since Digital Performer 7.24 is focused on a different set of activities, and although it also is a 32-bit application, it does not have to do all the work that NOTION 3 does . . .
THOUGHTS
What you describe is very similar to what happens when the 32-bit application workspace for NOTION 3 is near its maximum capacity and resource usage . . .
If you create your own templates from a blank template, then you might do some experiments to determine the practical boundaries . . .
And for reference, I do everything on the Mac, but the 32-bit application workspace limitation applies to the Windows version of NOTION 3, as well, and it does not matter whether you are running the operating system in 32-bit mode or in 64-bit mode . . .
This is all that comes to mind at present, but if are on the Mac and can post a NOTION 3 score with just enough measures of notes to cause the problem, I can take a look at it here in the sound isolation studio . . .
I have all the IK Multimedia VSTi virtual instruments, Kontakt 5 (Native Instruments), MachFive 3 (MOTU), and Twin 2 (FabFilter Software Instruments), but I do not have any of the other VSTi virtual instruments, so if the NOTION 3 score uses the N2 and N3 bundled instruments or the VSTi instruments I have, then I will be able to open it, but if it uses other VSTi virtual instruments that I do not have, there is not much I can do to help . . .
I checked the NOTION 3 User Manual, and it indicates that the "Measures per system" value is just a guideline or default value, because depending on the types of notes and so forth, the real number of measures per system can be lower . . .
[The Measures per system value] is a default number that will be lower in number when there are a large amount of spelled-out glissandos, 16th/32nd/64th/128th notes, German lyrics, or similar size-busting score markings in one or more measures.
[SOURCE: NOTION 3 User Manual ]
Hence another possibility is that there is a particular thing you are doing in the music notation that causes this adverse behavior, which might be something subtle like the font size or a particular type of articulation or dynamic . . .
And it also could be a matter of the page layout, printer driver, or something similar . . .
If you find a solution, let everyone know how you solved the problem . . .