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Hi, how can I use that in notion ?

I tried to put a ° for harmonics but it doesn't work, and reading the pdf for custom rules it seems that there is nothing related to harmonics ...

If I put glissando in the score, it tries to imitate it instead of loading the right sounds ... solutions ?

Since in aria it seems that chromatic harp, glissando harp and harmonics harp are 3 separate instrument at least I wish to load them on the stave with the shift+i trick but it seems that notion only knows "harp" from gpo that corresponds to the chromatic one ...

I don't really want to load 3 different staves for the harp, please ....


Thanks

Hi arkham00.
I never included harp into my music, neither a GPO or any other else one.
Instead of creating three harp staves playng in three different ways you can build an ensemble in Aria with the three harps in the same player/staff, one *harp* per channel; then write a rule switching to the appropriate channel according to the playing style you call for. Something like this:





(I see there is an Harp KS in GPO. You don't mention it. Are sure there's no ruleset for it?)

Improvent are welcome.

Hope it helps

Hi Fabio thanks for you help but unfortunately it doesn't work ...as ever when I try something in notion ...
Honestly I'm really pissed off ...It's a too buggy piece of software to work with ...
I could never imagine that circ was the word for the harmonics symbol ... it's silly

Moreover I don't understand the difference between notation and standard instrument in GPO I did a search in the manual but it is not really explained, apart something really obvious like, "you can uze the nothathion zample in nothathion programz" thank you it really helps -_-

Anyway I tried using the harp KS version (both standard and notation = a lot of time waste) as you suggested ..but guess what ? Yeah right, doesn't work
Here's my lines :

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<rule>
         <if instrument-id = "13036"/> 
         <if technique="circ" />
         <key-switch type="note-on-prefix" midi-pitch="5" velocity="127" />
         <key-switch type="note-off-suffix" midi-pitch="0" velocity="127" />
      </rule>   

Dunno if the midi-pitch is right, but anyway nothing happens to see if it is the right one, I suppose that is smtg like C=0, C#=1 etc.... i tried with differents pitch 2,3 and so on ... bah ...

I hope that this Ipad damn thing come out soon ... it is very unprofessional what is going on with this company

arkham00 wrote:Hi Fabio thanks for you help but unfortunately it doesn't work ...as ever when I try something in notion ...
Honestly I'm really pissed off ...It's a too buggy piece of software to work with ...
I could never imagine that circ was the word for the harmonics symbol ... it's silly

It may sound silly, but that symbol means different techniques for different instruments... so... I think coding it as "circle" makes reasonably good sense.

arkham00 wrote:Moreover I don't understand the difference between notation and standard instrument in GPO I did a search in the manual but it is not really explained, apart something really obvious like, "you can uze the nothathion zample in nothathion programz" thank you it really helps -_-

The only difference is the keyswitches. The normal patches have keyswitches that tend to be an octave below the playable range of the instrument. This mode is intended to be used "live" or by users who wish to change techniques while playing/recording a given part. The notation patches group all the keyswitches to the first few MIDI notes which makes coding for these keyswitches a bit easier.

arkham00 wrote:Anyway I tried using the harp KS version (both standard and notation = a lot of time waste) as you suggested ..but guess what ? Yeah right, doesn't work
Here's my lines :

Code: Select all

<rule>
         <if instrument-id = "13036"/> 
         <if technique="circ" />
         <key-switch type="note-on-prefix" midi-pitch="5" velocity="127" />
         <key-switch type="note-off-suffix" midi-pitch="0" velocity="127" />
      </rule>   

Dunno if the midi-pitch is right, but anyway nothing happens to see if it is the right one, I suppose that is smtg like C=0, C#=1 etc.... i tried with differents pitch 2,3 and so on ... bah ...

I think the note on suffix should be 4 for the notation KS patch. I'd try it again; sometimes the keyswitch changes aren't visible on the Aria keyboard. Also, try restarting Notion and reloading your instrument patches after you make changes to the rules file. I found that Notion doesn't accept my rules changes while I have a Notion file open.

arkham00 wrote:I hope that this Ipad damn thing come out soon ...

iPad = bah

arkham00 wrote:If I put glissando in the score, it tries to imitate it instead of loading the right sounds ... solutions ?

Well... I can certainly understand your point on this one. The two sounds are very different and the glissando patch sound very nice. The problem is that Notion's implementation of a glissando doesn't match the implementation of GPO's harp glissandi patches because GPO's glissandi don't have the option of altering the harp's tuning (that is, you can't have a glissando for anything other than a C major scale and/or its relative modes).

Please let me know if you know of a way to change the tuning of GPO's glissandi pitches and I'll happily write the rules to support it.

My custom GPO rules have been updated for harp harmonics:

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