64 bit, and possible workarounds?

[dedersen]

I love Notion 3. Or, to be more precise, I love the idea of it. Unfortunately, in its current 32 bit form, I am finding it almost useless for me. I absolutely love the interface, the concept, everything except that the lack of a 64 bit version is keeping me from utilizing my orchestral VSTis to their fullest.

With the developers being suspiciously quiet about updates, I am wondering if anyone has some workarounds for accesing 64 bit plugins? I've tried using the MIDI out ports, but unfortunately I have not been able to find virtual MIDI drivers that work in Notion as well as in Cubase 5 64 bit. A shame, because this would really be the ideal way of working for me, using Notion for sequencing and Cubase for mixing/VSTi hosting and final tweaking of the MIDI data.

Another possible workaround is to use Vienna Ensemble Pro, but I really would rather avoid spending money on something I only need as a workaround.

Has anyone come up with a good method for accessing 64 bit VSTis? Or ideally, for routing MIDI between Notion 3 and Cubase 5 64 bit?

[wcreed51]

LoopBe is the only x64 virtual MIDI driver:
http://nerds.de/en/loopbe30.html

Some people use jBridge, and of course, there's VE Pro.

[dedersen]

I tried LoopBe but it didn't seem to work in Notion, I could choose the proper outputs but nothing came through to Cubase. Maybe it's a 32 vs 64 bit issue.

[wcreed51]

You can't use it to connect with Cubase; you'd use Rewire for that. You'd use it to connect to Sample players like Kontakt, VSL, etc.

[pcartwright]

LoopBe is the only x64 virtual MIDI driver:
http://nerds.de/en/loopbe30.html

Some people use jBridge, and of course, there's VE Pro.

+1 for JBridge. It seems to be one of the best option for accessing additional ram IMHO.

[dedersen]

You can't use it to connect with Cubase; you'd use Rewire for that. You'd use it to connect to Sample players like Kontakt, VSL, etc.

I thought rewire was for audio routing, not MIDI? Regardless, isn't rewire also still 32 bit only or did it get updated? These were the reasons I started looking into virtual MIDI drivers. I can't see why that shouldn't work, except if there's a 32/64 bit issue again.

Notion integrated as the score editor in Cubase. What a wonder that would be.

[Brian]

ReWire is still limited to 32 bit systems. I think JBridge or VE Pro are your best options.

[wcreed51]

Brian, how do you let Notion know to use EWQL rules when loading Paly in VE Pro?

[Brian]

That is a very good question. We do not currently support using EWQL via VE Pro. VE Pro would be an excellent way to use VSL SE in a 64 bit environment though.

[wcreed51]

It's an excelent way to uase any x64 sample player!