I love Notion 3. Or, to be more precise, I love the idea of it. Unfortunately, in its current 32 bit form, I am finding it almost useless for me. I absolutely love the interface, the concept, everything except that the lack of a 64 bit version is keeping me from utilizing my orchestral VSTis to their fullest.
With the developers being suspiciously quiet about updates, I am wondering if anyone has some workarounds for accesing 64 bit plugins? I've tried using the MIDI out ports, but unfortunately I have not been able to find virtual MIDI drivers that work in Notion as well as in Cubase 5 64 bit. A shame, because this would really be the ideal way of working for me, using Notion for sequencing and Cubase for mixing/VSTi hosting and final tweaking of the MIDI data.
Another possible workaround is to use Vienna Ensemble Pro, but I really would rather avoid spending money on something I only need as a workaround.
Has anyone come up with a good method for accessing 64 bit VSTis? Or ideally, for routing MIDI between Notion 3 and Cubase 5 64 bit?
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64 bit, and possible workarounds?
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
LoopBe is the only x64 virtual MIDI driver:
http://nerds.de/en/loopbe30.html
Some people use jBridge, and of course, there's VE Pro.
http://nerds.de/en/loopbe30.html
Some people use jBridge, and of course, there's VE Pro.
Bill Reed
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
I tried LoopBe but it didn't seem to work in Notion, I could choose the proper outputs but nothing came through to Cubase. Maybe it's a 32 vs 64 bit issue.
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
You can't use it to connect with Cubase; you'd use Rewire for that. You'd use it to connect to Sample players like Kontakt, VSL, etc.
Bill Reed
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
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wcreed51 - Posts: 754
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
wcreed51 wrote:LoopBe is the only x64 virtual MIDI driver:
http://nerds.de/en/loopbe30.html
Some people use jBridge, and of course, there's VE Pro.
+1 for JBridge. It seems to be one of the best option for accessing additional ram IMHO.
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
wcreed51 wrote:You can't use it to connect with Cubase; you'd use Rewire for that. You'd use it to connect to Sample players like Kontakt, VSL, etc.
I thought rewire was for audio routing, not MIDI? Regardless, isn't rewire also still 32 bit only or did it get updated? These were the reasons I started looking into virtual MIDI drivers. I can't see why that shouldn't work, except if there's a 32/64 bit issue again.
Notion integrated as the score editor in Cubase. What a wonder that would be.
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
ReWire is still limited to 32 bit systems. I think JBridge or VE Pro are your best options.
Brian
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
Brian, how do you let Notion know to use EWQL rules when loading Paly in VE Pro?
Bill Reed
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
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wcreed51 - Posts: 754
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
That is a very good question. We do not currently support using EWQL via VE Pro. VE Pro would be an excellent way to use VSL SE in a 64 bit environment though.
Brian
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Re: 64 bit, and possible workarounds?
It's an excelent way to uase any x64 sample player!
Bill Reed
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
Notion 4, Sibelius 7.5, Finale 2011/14, Overture 4, Cubase 7.5
Win8 x64, 32GB RAM
M-Audio ProFire 2626
Kontakt, VSL VI Pro, VE Pro, EWQL Orch, Choirs and Pianos
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